Generation No. 2
2. Helena5 Hottmann (Johann Antonius4, Johann (Hanß) Jacob3, Johannes (Hans)2, Jacob1)24 was born 10 Nov 1773 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany24, and died 27 Jul 1855 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany25. She married Philipp David Ilg26 19 Nov 1799 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany26, son of Johann Jacob Ilg. He was born 23 Jan 1766 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany27, and died 11 Aug 1831 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany28.
Notes for Helena Hottmann:
Birth & Baptism, 10 Nov 1773
Parents: Antonius Hottmann, B. u. W. & Helena, nee Zeyhr
Infant: Helena, primog. (first born)
Witnesses: Johann Jerg? Ilg, B. u. W., and his wife, Margretha
(Taufregister 1728 - 1807)
Death, 1855 (From Todten Register für die Pfarrey Grunbach 1808-1875):
Zahl der Gestorbenen: 17
Namen der Gestorbenen: Helena Ilg g. 10 Nov. 1773
Stand, Charakter, bisheriger Aufenthalts-Ort, Religion: Wittwe, Grunbach
Eltern: + Johann Antonius Hottmann, W. hier, + Helena g. Zeyher
Ehegatten: Philipp Ilg, W.
Alter: 82 J. 8 M. 7 T.
Krankheit oder zufällige Todesart: Waßersucht
Ort und Zeit des Todes: Grunbach 27 Jul Ab. 3 1/2 Uhr
Ort und Zeit der Beerdigung: Grunbach, 29 Jul Nch 2 U.
Seitezahl des Familienregisters: I-371
[Translation:] Number of deaths: 17
Name of the deceased: Helena Ilg, born 10 November 1773
Status, character, residence to now, religion: widow, Grunbach
Parents: the late Johann Antonius Hottmann, vine dresser here, the late Helena nee Zeyher
Spouses: Philipp Ilg, vine dresser
Age: 82 years 8 months 7 days
Illness or other cause of death: dropsy
Place and date of death: Grunbach 27 July 3:30 p.m.
Place and date of burial: Grunbach, 29 July 2 p.m.
Page in the Family Register: I-371
Notes for Philipp David Ilg:
Family Register Vol. I, p. 371
This couple lost a total of four children to measles, three of whom died in the outbreak of 1814. A total of 31 Grunbach children died from this measles epidemic between mid-February and late April. Of these, six were children of Hottmanns. Helena Hottmann and Philipp David Ilg lost three of their children (ages 13, 6 and 3) in the space of less than a week. Group burials were the rule during the period.
Birth and baptism, Grunbach Evangelical church, Taufregister 1728-1807:
1766, No. 5
d. 23 Jan. geb. d. 24 gt.; Joh. Dav. Ilg, u. Regina Helena geb. Schanbacher; Philipp David; H. Joh. Philipp Hottmann des Gerichts u. Anna Elisabetha, H. Joseph Xanders, des Gerichts uxor. [born 23 January, baptized the 24th; (parents) Johann David Ilg, and Regina Helena nee Schanbacher; (child) Philipp David; (witnesses) Mr. Johann Philipp Hottmann of the court and Anna Elisabetha, wife of Mr. Joseph Xander of the court.]
Note: This was the only Philipp David Ilg appearing in baptismal records back to 1760.
Death, 1831 (From Todten Register für die Pfarrey Grunbach 1808-1875):
Zahl der Gestorbenen: 24
Namen der Gestorbenen: Philipp David Ilg, n. 23 Jan 1766
Stand, Charakter, bisheriger Aufenthalts-Ort, Religion: B. u. Weingärtner in Grunbach
Eltern: wl. Johann David Ilg, B. u. Weingärtner in Grunbach, wl. Regina Helena geb. Schanbacher
Ehegatten: Helena, geb. Hottmann
Alter: 65 Jahre, 6 Monate, 20 Tage
Krankheit oder zufällige Todesart: Wassersucht
Ort und Zeit des Todes: Grunbach den 11ten August Abends 5 Uhr
Ort und Zeit der Beerdigung: Grunbach den 14ten August, Vormittags 10 Uhr
Seitenzahl des Familienregisters: 371-I
[Translation:] Number of deaths: 24
Name of the deceased: Philipp David Ilg, n. 23 Jan. 1766
Status, character, residence to now, religion: citizen and vine dresser in Grunbach
Parents: the late Johann David Ilg, citizen and vine dresser in Grunbach, the late Regina Helena, nee Schanbacher
Spouses: Helena, nee Hottmann
Age: 65 years 6 months 20 days
Illness or other cause of death: dropsy
Place and date of death: Grunbach 11 August, 5 p.m.
Place and date of burial: Grunbach 14 August, 10 a.m.
Page in the Family Register: Vol. I, p. 371
Marriage Notes for Helena Hottmann and Philipp Ilg:
Marriage record:
Banns: XXIV, XXV, XXVI Sundays of Trinity [NB: 3, 10, 17 Nov]. Marriage 19 Nov 1799. Philipp David Ilg, unmarried Weingärtner, & Helena, legitimate & unmarried. Parents: Johann Jakob Ilg, B & W & H(err) Antonius Hottmann, Geritchts(meister) & Bürgermeister. [NB: not sure what a Gerichtsmeister is, lit. "master of the court."]
Children of Helena Hottmann and Philipp Ilg are:
15 i. Philipp David6 Ilg29,30, born Abt. 11 Jan 1801 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany31,32; died 09 Mar 1814 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany33.
Notes for Philipp David Ilg:
Birth and baptism, Grunbach Evangelical church, Taufregister 1728-1807:
1801, No. 2
nat. d. 10 Jan h. pm. 3 ren. Seqtr.; Philipp David; Philipp David Ilg, B. u. Weingtr., Helena geb. Hottmannin; H. Antonius Hottmann, des Gerichts u. Wgtr., Agatha Seyboldin, ledig. [born 10 January 3 p.m., baptized the next day; (child) Philipp Davis; (parents) Philipp David Ilg, citizen and vine dresser, Helena, nee Hottmann; (witnesses) Mr. Antonius Hottmann of the court and vine dresser, Agatha Seybold, unmarried.]
Death, 1814 (From Todten Register für die Pfarrey Grunbach 1808-1875):
Zahl der Gestorbenen: 11
Namen der Gestorbenen: Philipp David
Stand, Charakter, bisheriger Aufenthalts-Ort, Religion: Grunbach, evangelisch
Eltern: Philipp David Ilg, B. u. Weing., Helena geb. Hottmannin
Ehegatten:
Alter: 13 Jahr 2 Mon weniger 1 Tag
Krankheit oder zufällige Todesart: rote Flecken
Ort und Zeit des Todes: Grunbach, 9 Mart. Nachmittags ___ Uhr
Ort und Zeit der Beerdigung: Grunbach, 12 Mart. Vormittags 10 Uhr (Bible ref.)
Seitenzahl des Familienregisters: 372 - Isten Band
[Translation:] Number of deaths: 11
Name of the deceased: Philipp David
Status, character, residence to now, religion: Grunbach, Evangelical
Parents: Philipp David Ilg, citizen and vine dresser, Helena nee Hottmann
Spouses:
Age: 13 years 2 months less 1 day
Illness or other cause of death: measles
Place and date of death: Grunbach 9 March ___ p.m.
Place and date of burial: Grunbach 12 March 10 a.m. (Bible ref.)
Page in the Family Register: 372 - Isten Band
16 ii. Helena Ilg34, born 19 Feb 1804 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany34; died Bef. 1810 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany.
Notes for Helena Ilg:
Birth and baptism, Grunbach Evangelical church, Taufregister 1728-1807:
1804, No. 6
nat. (Sunday symbol) 19 Febr. h. pm. 7 ren. Seqtr; Helena; Philipp David Ilg, B. u. Weingtr., Helena geb. Hottmannin; H. Johann Antonius Hottmann, des Gerichts u. Wgtr., Agatha Seyboldin, ledig. [born Sunday 19 February 7 p.m., baptized the following day; (child) Helena; (parents) Philipp David Ilg, citizen and vine dresser, Helena nee Hottmann; (witnesses) Mr. Johann Antonius Hottmann of the court and vine dresser, Agatha Seybold, unmarried.]
17 iii. Johannes Ilg35,36, born Abt. 23 Jun 1807 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany37,38; died 13 Mar 1814 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany39.
Notes for Johannes Ilg:
Birth and baptism, Grunbach Evangelical church, Taufregister 1728-1807:
1807, No. 31
nat. (Sunday symbol) 21 Jun. h. am. u. ren. eod.; Johannes; Philipp David Ilg, B. u. Weingtr., Helena, geb. Hottmannin; H. Joh. Antonius Hottmann, des Raths u. Weingtr., Agatha, Johann Jakob Wakers, Bu. u. Wgtr. ux. [born Sunday 21 June in the morning and baptized the same day; (child) Johannes; (parents) Philipp David Ilg, citizen and vine dresser, Helena, nee Hottmann; (witnesses) Mr. Johann Antonius Hottmann of the council and vine dresser, Agatha, wife of Johann Jakob Waker, citizen and vine dresser.]
Death, 1814 (From Todten Register für die Pfarrey Grunbach 1808-1875):
Zahl der Gestorbenen: 12
Namen der Gestorbenen: Johannes, Bruder des 11ten
Stand, Charakter, bisheriger Aufenthalts-Ort, Religion: Grunbach, evangelisch
Eltern: Philipp David Ilg, B. u. Weingtr., Helena geb. Hottmannin
Ehegatten:
Alter: 6 Jahr 8 Mon 20 Tag
Krankheit oder zufällige Todesart: rote Flecken
Ort und Zeit des Todes: Grunbach (Sunday symbol), 13 Mart. Nachts 3 Uhr
Ort und Zeit der Beerdigung: Grunbach 15 Mart. Vormittags 10 Uhr (Bible ref.)
Seitenzahl des Familienregisters: 372 - Isten Band
[Translation:] Number of deaths: 12
Name of the deceased: Johannes, brother of No. 11
Status, character, residence to now, religion: Grunbach, Evangelical
Parents: Philipp David Ilg, citizen and vine dresser, Helena nee Hottmann
Spouses:
Age: 6 years 8 months 20 days
Illness or other cause of death: measles
Place and date of death: Grunbach, Sunday 13 March 3 a.m.
Place and date of burial: Grunbach 15 March 10 a.m. (Bible ref.)
Page in the Family Register: 372 - Vol. I
18 iv. Friederika Ilg40,41, born Abt. 02 Jan 1811 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany42,43; died 15 Mar 1814 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany44.
Notes for Friederika Ilg:
Birth and baptism, Grunbach Evangelical church, Taufregister 1808-1846:
1811, No. 1
Friederike; Philipp David Ilg, B. u. Weingtr., Helena geb. Hottmannin; Grunbach, 2 Januar Morgens 7 Uhr; Grunbach, 4 Januar, Pfarrer M. Johann Conrad Wagenmann; H. Johann Antonius Hottmann des Gerichts u. Wengtr., Agatha, Johann Jakob Waker, B. u. Wengtr. ux.; 371 - Isten B. [(child) Friederike; (parents) Philipp David Ilg, citizen and vine dresser, Helena nee Hottmann; (place and date of birth) Grunbach, 2 January 7 a.m.; (place and date of baptism and by whom) Grunbach, 4 January, Pastor the Rev. Johann Conrad Wagenmann; (witnesses) Mr. Johann Antonius Hottmann of the court and vine dresser, Agatha, wife of Johann Jakob Waker, citizen and vine dresser; (Family Register) Vol. I, p. 371.]
Death, 1814 (From Todten Register für die Pfarrey Grunbach 1808-1875):
Zahl der Gestorbenen: 16
Namen der Gestorbenen: Friederika Schwester von den 11. u. 12.
Stand, Charakter, bisheriger Aufenthalts-Ort, Religion: Grunbach, evangelisch
Eltern: Philipp David Ilg b. u. Weingtr., Helena geb. Hottmannin
Ehegatten:
Alter: 3 Jahr 2 Mon 13 Tag
Krankheit oder zufällige Todesart: rote Flecken
Ort und Zeit des Todes: Grunbach (Tuesday symbol) 15 Mart. Vormittags 10 Uhr
Ort und Zeit der Beerdigung: Grunbach 17 Mart. Vormittags 10 Uhr (Bible ref.)
Seitenzahl des Familienregisters: 372 - Isten B.
[Translation:] Number of deaths: 16
Name of the deceased: Friederika, sister of No. 11 and No. 12
Status, character, residence to now, religion: Grunbach, Evangelical
Parents: Philipp David Ilg, citizen and vine dresser, Helena nee Hottmann
Spouses:
Age: 3 years 2 months 13 days
Illness or other cause of death: measles
Place and date of death: Grunbach, Tuesday 15 March 10 a.m.
Place and date of burial: Grunbach, 17 March 10 a.m. (Bible ref.)
Page in the Family Register: 372 - Vol. I
19 v. Christiana Ilg45, born 27 May 1811 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany45.
Notes for Christiana Ilg:
Birth and baptism, Grunbach Evangelical church, Taufregister 1808-1846:
1815, No. 28 & 29
Helena, Christiana, Zwill.; Philipp David Ilg, B. u. Weingt., Helena geb. Hottmannin; Grunbach 27 Mai Morgens 3 Uhr; Grunbach 27 Mai, Pfarrer M. Johann Conrad Wagenmann; H. Antonius Hottmann des Gerichts u. Weingtr., Agatha, Johann Jacob Wakers B. u. Wengtr. ux.; 371 - Isten B. [(children) Helena, Christiana, twins; (parents) Philipp David Ilg, citizen and vine dresser, Helena nee Hottmann; (place and date of birth) Grunbach, 27 May, 3 a.m.; (place and date of baptism and by whom) Grunbach, 27 May, Pastor the Rev. Johann Conrad Wagenmann; (witnesses) Mr. Antonius Hottmann of the court and vine dresser, Agatha, wife of Johann Jacob Waker, citizen and vine dresser; (Family Register) Vol. I, p. 371.]
Christiana was confirmed at the Grunbach Evangelical church in 1829, but no further record of her has been found.
20 vi. Helena Ilg46, born 27 May 1811 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany46.
Notes for Helena Ilg:
Birth and baptism: see notes for Christiana, her twin sister.
She was confirmed in the Grunbach Evangelical church in 1929. Family Register Vol. I, p. 371, contains a note that she married a Christian Friedrich Meyer?, vine dresser in Neu___elbach. No further record of her was found in Grunbach. The name of this place does not directly suggest any known place in Württemberg.
21 vii. Carolina Ilg47,48, born 15 Jun 1819 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany49,50; died 27 Nov 1821 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany51.
Notes for Carolina Ilg:
Birth and baptism, Grunbach Evangelical church, Taufregister 1808-1846:
1819, No. 34
Carolina + 27 Nov. 1821; Philipp David Ilg, B. u. Wengtr., Helena geb. Hottmannin; Grunbach, (Tuesday symbol) 15 Jun. Vormittags 8 Uhr; Grunbach, 16 Jun, Pfarrer M. Johann Conrad Wagenmann; Johann Jakob Waker, B. u. Wgtr., cum ux. Agatha, geb. Seyboldin; 371 - Isten B. [(child) Carolina, died 27 November 1821; (parents) Philipp David Ilg, citizen and vine dresser, Helena, nee Hottmann; (place and date of birth) Grunbach, Tuesday, 15 June, 8 a.m.; (place and date of baptism and by whom) Grunbach, 16 June, Pastor the Rev. Johann Conrad Wagenmann; (witnesses) Johann Jakob Waker, citizen and vine dresser, with wife Agatha, nee Seybold; (Family Register) Vol. I, p. 371.]
Death, 1821 (From Todten Register für die Pfarrey Grunbach 1808-1875):
Zahl der Gestorbenen: 36
Namen der Gestorbenen: Carolina geb. 15 Jun 1819
Stand, Charakter, bisheriger Aufenthalts-Ort, Religion: Grunbach, evangelisch
Eltern: Philipp David Ilg, b. u. S_____, Helena geb. Hottmannin ux.
Ehegatten:
Alter: 2 Jahr 5 Mon. 13 Tage
Krankheit oder zufällige Todesart: rote Flecken
Ort und Zeit des Todes: Grunbach, (Tuesday symbol) 27 Nov. Nachmittags 2 Uhr
Ort und Zeit der Beerdigung: Grunbach 29 Nov Vormittags 10 Uhr (Bible ref.)
Seitezahl des Familienregisters: 371 - Isten B.
[Translation:] Number of deaths: 36
Name of the deceased: Carolina, born 15 June 1819
Status, character, residence to now, religion: Grunbach, Evangelical
Parents: Philipp David Ilg, citizen and (illegible), Helena nee Hottmann, wife
Spouses:
Age: 2 years 5 months 13 days
Illness or other cause of death: measles
Place and date of death: Grunbach, Tuesday 27 November 2 p.m.
Place and date of burial: Grunbach 29 November 10 a.m. (Bible ref.)
Page in the Family Register: 371 - Vol. I
5. Jacob Friederich5 Hottmann (Johann Antonius4, Johann (Hanß) Jacob3, Johannes (Hans)2, Jacob1)52 was born 29 Sep 1778 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany52, and died Unknown in probably Russia. He married (1) Elisabetha Baun53 29 May 1804 in Rohrbronn, Württemberg, Germany53,54, daughter of Jacob Baun and Magdalena Schurr. She was born 01 Dec 1779 in Rohrbronn, Württemberg, Germany55, and died 23 Jun 1825 in Rohrbronn, Württemberg, Germany56,57. He married (2) Eva Rosina Lenz58 19 Jan 1827 in Winterbach, Württemberg, Germany58, daughter of Georg Lenz and Maria Schärlin. She was born 19 Jan 1781 in Schorndorf, Württemberg, Germany58, and died Unknown in probably Schorndorf, Württemberg, Germany.
Notes for Jacob Friederich Hottmann:
Birth & baptism:
b. 29 Sep 1778, bp. 30 Sep, Parents: Antonius Hottmann, B & W, & Helena, nee Zeyher. Child: Jacob Friderich. Witnesses: Joh. Georg Ilg, Sr. & his wife Margretha.
Jacob Friederich Hottmann and family appear in the Family Register of the Winterbach Evangelical church in the volume dealing with affiliated churches (Rohrbronn, here), p. 123. In that record is a note: "Ist mit seiner ganzen Familie nach Süd. Rußland ausgewandert im April 1831." [Emigrated with his entire family to southern Russia in April 1831.] That statement is not entirely accurate. By 1831, he was married to his second wife, Eva Rosina Lenz of Schorndorf. Of her, this same register says: "Ist nach der Auswanderung ihres Ehegatten wieder nach Schorndorf gezogen." [After the emigration of her husband, she moved back to Schorndorf.] His youngest child, Elisabeth Rosina, had died in infancy in 1825, shortly after her mother's death. His descendants did not lose touch with their roots in Rohrbronn, as reflected in the notes concerning son Johannes and his son Valentin Kurt Hottmann.
Notes for Elisabetha Baun:
Birth and baptism, Winterbach Evangelical church, Taufen 1750-1781:
1779, No. 94
Rohrbronn, nat. et ren. d. 1 Dec.; Elisabetha + 23 Jun 1825; Jacob Baun, B. u. Weber, ux. Magdalena, geb. Schurr; Jung Michel Baun, B. u. Weing., Anna Maria, Hans Hallers ux. [Rohrbronn, born and baptized on 1 December; (child) Elisabetha, died 23 June 1825; (parents) Jacob Baun, citizen and weaver, wife Magdalena, nee Schurr; (witnesses) Michel Baun the younger, citizen and vine dresser, Anna Maria, Hans Haller's wife.]
Death, Winterbach Evangelical church, Todten-Register 1822-1834:
1825
Zahl der Gestorbenen: 53
Namen der Gestorbenen: Elisabetha Hottmann, geb. 1 Dec. 1779
Stand, Charakter, bisheriger Aufenthalts-Ort, Religion: Rohrbronn, verheurathet
Eltern: weil. Jacob Baun, Richter in Rohrbronn, weil. Magdalena geb. Schurr
Ehegatten: Jacob Friederich Hottmann, Richter in Rohrbronn
Alter: 45 J. 6 M. 22 T.
Krankheit oder zufällige Todesart: Brand als Kindbetterin
Ort und Zeit des Todes: Rohrbronn, 23 Jun. Morgens 6 Uhr
Ort und Zeit der Beerdigung: Winterbach, 26 Jun. Morgens 9 Uhr
Seitenzahl des Familienregisters: R. 123
[Translation:] Number of deaths: 53
Name of the deceased: Elisabetha Hottmann, born 1 December 1779
Status, character, residence to now, religion: Rohrbronn, married
Parents: the late Jacob Baun, judge in Rohrbronn, the late Magdalena nee Schurr
Spouses: Jacob Friederich Hottmann, judge in Rohrbronn
Age: 45 years 6 months 22 days
Illness or other cause of death: painful illness while in childbirth confinement
Place and date of death: Rohrbronn, 23 June 6 a.m.
Place and date of burial: Winterbach, 26 June 9 a.m.
Page in the Family Register: Rohrbronn, p. 123
Marriage Notes for Jacob Hottmann and Elisabetha Baun:
Marriage, Grunbach Evangelical church records:
29 May 1804 in Winterbach [NB: Winterbach lies between Remshalden & Schorndorf.] Jacob Friderich Hottmann, legitimate & unmarried (Weingärtner), son of H(err) Antoni Hottmann, Raths___from here; & Elisabetha, legitimate & unmarried daughter of H(err) Jacob Baun, Richter [judge] in Rohrbronn, Winterbach.
Marriage, Winterbach Evangelical church, Ehebuch 1782-1807:
1804, No. 10
Rohrbronn, d. 29ten Majii; Dom. Miseric., Jubil. et. Cant.; Jacob Friederich Hottmann, H. Antonius Hottmann, Richters in Grunbach ehl. led. Sohn, mit Elisabetha, H. Jacob Baun, Richters in Rohrbronn ehl. led. Tochter. [Rohrbronn, 29 May; (banns proclaimed) Misericordia, Jubilate and Cantate Sundays; (groom) Jacob Friederich Hottmann, legitimate unmarried son of Mr. Antonius Hottmann, judge in Grunbach, with Elisabetha, legitimate unmarried daughter of Mr. Jacob Baun, judge in Rohrbronn.]
Notes for Eva Rosina Lenz:
The Winterbach Evangelical church Family Register for affiliated churches (here, Rohrbronn) p. 123 provides these notes about Eva Rosina:
" - Ist hach der Auswanderung ihres Ehegatten wieder nach Schorndorf gezogen." [After her husband's emigration, she moved back to Schorndorf.]
" - war weil. Christoph Friderich Kurz, Weingärtners in Schorndorf, nachgelaßene Wittwe." [was the surviving widow of the late Christoph Friderich Kurz, vine dresser in Schorndorf.]
Children of Jacob Hottmann and Elisabetha Baun are:
22 i. Daniel6 Hottmann59, born 09 Aug 1805 in Rohrbronn, Württemberg, Germany59; died Unknown in probably Russia. He married Anna Maria Erhardt 15 Feb 1831 in Winterbach, Württemberg, Germany60; born 19 Jul 1809 in Winterbach, Württemberg, Germany61; died Unknown in probably Russia.
Notes for Daniel Hottmann:
Birth and baptism, Winterbach Evangelical church, Tauf-Register:
1805, No. 33
Rohrbronnn, nat. d. 9ten ren. d. 10ten Aug; Daniel, 1831 nach Süd Rußland ausgewandert, F.R. Rohrb. 124; Jacob Friederich Hottmann, Weing. uxor Elisabetha, geb. Baun; Daniel Baun, Weing. cum uxore Christiana. [Rohrbronn, born the 9th, baptized the 10th of August; (child) Daniel, in 1831 he emigrated to southern Russia, Rohrbronn Family Register p. 124; (parents) Jacob Friederich Hottmann, vine dresser, wife Elisabetha, nee Baun; (witnesses) Daniel Baun, vine dresser, with wife, Christiana.]
The Family Register mentioned above contains marriage information, and the annotation: "Ausgewandert nach dem südlichen Rußland im April 1831." [emigrated to southern Russia in April 1831] He and his wife left for Russia just a few months after their marriage, and no children are listed.
Notes for Anna Maria Erhardt:
Birth and baptism, Winterbach Evangelical church, Tauf-Register 1808-1826:
1809, No. 28
Anna Maria, Rohrb. F.R. f. 125, 1831 nach dem südl. Rußland ausgew.; Georg Jacob Erhard, Burger und Weing., ux. Anna Maria geb. Schloz; Winterbach d. 19ten Jul Mittags 12 Uhr; Winterbach d. 20 Jul., Diac. Leiberich; Herr Johannes Hutt, Richter, Juliana, Jacob Friedrich Künzlers, Burgers und Schmidts ___ Ehefrau; 293. [(child) Anna Maria, Rohrbach Family Register p. 125, emigrated in 1831 to southern Russia; (parents) Georg Jacob Erhard, citizen and vine dresser, wife Anna Maria nee Schloz; (birth) Winterbach, 19 July 12 o'clock noon; (baptism) Winterbach, 20 July, Deacon Leiberich; (witnesses) Mr. Johannes Hutt, judge, Juliana, (word illegible) wife of Jacob Friedrich Künzler, citizen and smith; (Family Register) p. 293.]
Marriage Notes for Daniel Hottmann and Anna Erhardt:
Marriage, Winterbach Evangelical church, Eheregister 1831-1909:
1831, No. 6
(groom) Daniel Hottmann, B. u. Weingärtner, evangel.; Jakob Friderich Hottmann, B. und Weingärtner in Rohrbronn, weil. Elisabetha, geb. Baun; ledig; Rohrbronn 9 Aug 1805.
(bride) Anna Maria geb. Erhardt, von Winterbach, Evangel.; Georg Jakob Erhardt, B. u. Bauer in Winterbach, Anna Maria geb. Schloz; ledig; Winterbach 19 Jul 1809.
(marriage)
Erlaubnis: Oberamtl. com____ Schein 15 Jan 1831
Proklamation: Winterbach Dom. II, III p. Epiph., Septuag.
Kopulation: Winterbach, d. 15 Feb. 1831, Pfarrer Rommel
Familien Register: R. 124
[(groom) Daniel Hottmann, citizen and vine dresser, Evangelical; (parents) Jakob Friderich Hottmann, citizen and vine dresser in Rohrbronn, the late Elisabetha nee Baun; (status) unmarried; (birth) Rohrbronn 9 August 1805.
(bride) Anna Maria nee Erhardt, of Winterbach, Evangelical; (parents) Georg Jakob Erhardt, citizen and farmer in Winterbach, Anna Maria nee Schloz; (status) unmarried; (birth) Winterbach, 19 July 1809.
(marriage)
Permission: District government commission? certificate, 15 January 1831
Banns proclaimed: Winterbach, 2nd and 3rd Sundays after Epiphany, Septuagesima Sunday
Marriage: Winterbach, 15 February 1831, Pastor Rommel
Family Register: Rohrbronn, p. 124
The Family Register referenced above contains the statement: "Ausgewandert nach den südlichen Rußland im April 1831." (Emigrated to southern Russia in April 1831.] No children are listed, as was sometimes the case with families who emigrated to Russia, even when the children were born in Russia.
23 ii. Stillborn Hottmann62, born 02 Dec 1807 in Rohrbronn, Württemberg, Germany62; died 02 Dec 1807 in Rohrbronn, Württemberg, Germany63.
Notes for Stillborn Hottmann:
Winterbach Evangelical church, Todten Buch, 1787-1807 (the first date is the death, the seond the burial):
1807, No. 66
d. 2ten Decbr. Vorm. 10 Uhr, und 3ten Abends 4 Uhr; Rohrbronn; Anonyma, Jacob Friedrich Hottmann, Weing. todtgeborenes ehl. Töchterl. [2 December 10 a.m., and the 3rd at 4 p.m.; in Rohrbronn; Unnamed girl, stillborn little daughter of Jacob Friedrich Hottmann, vine dresser.]
24 iii. Jacob Friederich Hottmann64, born 06 Dec 1808 in Rohrbronn, Württemberg, Germany64; died Unknown in probaby Russia. He married Judith Ricker65 Mar 1831 in Katharinenfeld, Caucasus, Russia66,67; born 30 Mar 1811 in Rohrbronn, Württemberg, Germany68; died Unknown in probably Russia.
Notes for Jacob Friederich Hottmann:
Birth and baptism, Winterbach Evangelical church, Tauf-Register:
1808, No. 45
Jacob Friedrich, 1831 mit Eltern nach Südrußland gezogen; Jacob Friederich Hottmann, B. und Weing. in Rohrbronn, Evangel. Relig., Elisabetha, geb. Baun, Evangel. Relig.; Filial Rohrbronn, 6 Decbr. Morgens 10 Uhr; Winterbach 10 Dec., Pfarrer M. Knoft; Daniel Baun, B. u. Weing. in Rohrbronn, und dessen Ehefrau, Christiana, geb. Baun; Rohr. 123. [(child) Jacob Friedrich, moved with his parents to south Russia in 1831; (parents) Jacob Friederich Hottmann, citizen and vine dresser in Rohrbronn, Evangelical religion, Elisabetha, nee Baun, Evangelical religion; (place and date of birth) affiliated village Rohrbronn, 6 December, 10 a.m.; (place and date of baptism and by whom) Winterbach, 10 December, Pastor Knoft; (witnesses) Daniel Baun, citizen and vine dresser in Rohrbronn, and his wife, Christiana, nee Baun; (Family Register) Rohrbronn p. 123.]
+ 25 iv. Johann Christian Hottmann, born 13 Sep 1811 in Rohrbronn, Württemberg, Germany; died Unknown in probably Russia.
+ 26 v. Johannes Hottmann, born 03 Jan 1815 in Rohrbronn, Württemberg, Germany; died Unknown.
27 vi. Christiana Hottmann69, born 06 Apr 1819 in Rohrbronn, Württemberg, Germany69; died Unknown in possibly Russia.
Notes for Christiana Hottmann:
Birth and baptism: Fraternal twin of Joseph Hottmann. See notes for Joseph.
28 vii. Joseph Hottmann70, born 06 Apr 1819 in Rohrbronn, Württemberg, Germany70; died 28 Feb 1901 in possibly Russia.
Notes for Joseph Hottmann:
Birth and baptism, Winterbach Evangelical church, Tauf-Register:
1819, No. 22 & 23
Joseph, Christiana, Zwillinge, 1831 nach Rußland; Jakob Friedrich Hottmann, B. u. Weing., Elisabetha, geb. Baun; Rohrbronn, 6 April Abends 6 Uhr; Winterbach, den 8? April, Pfarrer Kopst; Daniel Baun, Weing., und dessen Uxor Christiana, für das Mädchen, alt Matthäus Baun, Maurer, Elisabetha, geb. Rikerin; 123. [(children) Joseph, Christiana, twins, in 1831 (went) to Russia; (parents) Jakob Friedrich Hottmann, citizen and vine dreser, Elisabetha nee Baun; (place and date of birth) Rohrbronn, 6 April, 6 p.m.; (place and date of baptism and by whom) Winterbach, 8? April, Pastor Kopst; (witnesses) Daniel Baun, vine dresser, and his wife Christiana, for the girl, Matthäus Baun the elder, mason, Elisabetha, nee Riker; (Family Register) p. 123.]
29 viii. Elisabetha Rosina Hottmann71, born 07 Jun 1825 in Rohrbronn, Württemberg, Germany71; died 04 Jul 1825 in Rohrbronn, Württemberg, Germany72.
Notes for Elisabetha Rosina Hottmann:
Birth and baptism, Winterbach Evangelical church, Tauf-Register:
1825, No. 28
Elisabetha Rosina, + 4 Juli 1825; Jakob Friederich Hottmann, Bürger und Weingärtner in Rohrbronn, Elisabetha, geb. Baun; Rohrbronn, 7 Jun NMittags 2 Uhr; Winterbach 8 Jun, Pfarrer M. Ehemann; Daniel Baun, Weingärtner cum uxore Christiana geb. Baun; R. 123. [(child) Elisabetha Rosina, died 4 July 1825; (parents) Jakob Friederich Hottmann, citizen and vine dresser in Rohrbronn, Elisabetha, nee Baun; (place and date of birth) Rohrbronn, 7 June, 2 p.m.; (place and date of baptism and by whom) Winterbach, 8 June, Pastor Ehemann; (witnesses) Daniel Baun, vine dresser, with wife Christiana nee Baun; (Family Register) R.(ohrbronn) p. 123.]
Death, Winterbach Evangelical church, Todten-Register 1822-1834:
1825
Zahl der Gestorbenen: 60
Namen der Gestorbenen: Elisabetha Rosina, geb. 7 Jun 1825
Stand, Charakter, bisheriger Aufenthalts-Ort, Religion: Rohrbronn, Kind
Eltern: Jacob Friederich Hottmann, Richter in Rohrbronn, weil. Elisabetha geb. Baun
Ehegatten:
Alter: 27 Tag
Krankheit oder zufällige Todesart: Gichter
Ort und Zeit des Todes: Rohrbronn, 4 Juli, NMittags 1 Uhr
Ort und Zeit der Beerdigung: Winterbach 6 Juli Morgens 10 Uhr
Seitenzahl des Familienregisters: R. 133
[Translation:] Number of deaths: 60
Name of the deceased: Elisabetha Rosina, nee 7 June 1825
Status, character, residence to now, religion: Rohrbronn, child
Parents: Jacob Friederich Hottmann, judge in Rohrbronn, the late Elisabetha nee Baun
Spouses:
Age: 27 days
Illness or other cause of death: convulsions
Place and date of death: Rohrbronn, 4 July, 1 p.m.
Place and date of burial: Winterbach, 6 July, 10 a.m.
Page in the Family Register: Rohrbronn, p. 133
7. Elisabetha Magdalena5 Hottmann (Johann Antonius4, Johann (Hanß) Jacob3, Johannes (Hans)2, Jacob1)73,74 was born 04 Aug 1783 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany75,76, and died Unknown. She married Johann Gottlieb Lemberger77,78 24 Sep 1805 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany79, son of Johannes Lemberger and Barbara Knaur. He was born 20 Jun 1779 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany80,81, and died 1851 in Darke County, Ohio.
Notes for Elisabetha Magdalena Hottmann:
Birth/baptism: Evangelical Church records, Grunbach (Taufregister 1728-1807):
Date: born and baptized 4 Aug 1783
Parents: Johann Antoni Hottmann, des Rathes, and Helena Zeiher
Infant: Elisabetha Magdalena
Witnesses: Johann Georg Ilg, Sr., Bürger & Weingärtner; and his wife, Margaretha Seibold.
A letter from her husband, Johann Gottlieb Lemberger, to their son (Tobias) William (Wilhelm) Lemberger, 25 Oct 1843, asks William to convey greetings to Christina Hottmann.
Letter from Ellamarie Coles to H.H. West, 22 Sep 1933, referring to Elisabeth: "His mother died in 1855 of paralysis in Washington County, Iowa. The mother lived with a brother Daniel Hottman after coming to America." This is evidently incorrect. Her brother, Daniel Hottmann, never left Württemberg, and no evidence has been found to substantiate that she was ever in Washington County, Iowa. It seems more likely that after her husband's death that she would have gone to live with one of her more nearby sons. Supposedly after the senior Johann Gottlieb's death, the son William (Tobias Wilhelm) left Philadelphia and returned to Darke Co. to take up operation of the farm, which was supposedly in his name, rather than that of the parents. It would have been natural for her to be taken care of by William, and possibly she went with him and his family when they moved west to Cambridge City, Indiana.
Notes for Johann Gottlieb Lemberger:
Birth/baptism: Evangelical Church records, Grunbach, Taufregister 1728-1807:
Date: born & baptized 20 Jun 1779
Parents: Herr Johannes Lemberger, des Raths, & Barbara Knaur
Infant: Johann Gottlieb
Witnesses: Herr Johannes Hägele, Heiligenpfleger; Catharina, Michael Schwegler's wife.
Family Register (abt. 1737 ff., Grunbach 1184715), p. 73, item 4
Lemberger, Joh(ann) Gottlieb, B & W, b. 20 Jun 1779, (again some kind of characterization, illegible)
Parents: H. Johannes Lemberger, Gerichtsverwandter & Zoller, p. 6 item 2, and Barbara nee Knaur
Married: 24 Sep 1808 to Elisabetha Magdalena, b. 4 Aug 1783
Her parents: H. Joh(ann) Antonius Hottmann, Gerichtsverwandter, p. 24 item 2 and Helena nee Zeyhr
Children:
1. Tobias Wilhelm, b. 24 Sep 1806
(no other children listed)
Family Register (1798 ff., Band I, Grunbach 1184715), p. 445 [NB: this volume of the registry skips from p. 441 to 445 for some reason]
Hausvater: Lemberger, Johann Gottlieb, B & W, also surveyor, emigrated with wife and his [children?] to America, b. 20 Jan 1779
His parents: see p. 438
Hausmutter: Elisabetha Magdalena, b. 4 Aug 1783
Her parents: see p 325
Married: 24 Sep 1805
Children:
1. Tobias Wilhelm, b. 24 Sep 1806, confirmed 1820
2. Johann Gottlieb, b. 28 Oct 1809, confirmed 1823
3. Elisabetha Catharina, b. 19 Jun 1813
4. Helena Christiana, b. 10 Nov 1815, d. 18 of same month
5. Christian Friderich, b. 28 Sep 1816, d. 17 Aug 1817
6. Carl Michael, b. 10 Sep 1818, confirmed 1832
7. Johannes, b. 17 Feb 1821
8. Johann Jacob, b. 1 Aug 1823
9. Christian Heinrich, b. 3 May 1826
The Auswanderungsakten (emigration files) of the Oberamt Schorndorf contain substantial documentation pertaining to the emigration of Johann Gottlieb Lemberger and his family. He made application through the authorities of his home village, Grunbach, to the Oberamt in April 1832 for the emigration to include himself, his wife, his remaining children (Elisabetha Catharina, age 20; Carl Michael, age 13 1/2; Johannes, age 11; Johann Jacob, age 8 1/2; and Christian Heinrich, age 6), as well as his "maid," Anna Maria Hottmann (probably a niece of his wife's), age 23 from Grunbach, and Johann Friedrich Austle, age 27 of Schorndorf, described as his hired hand. His declared assets amounted to 1450 guilders. The citizen to be responsible for his affairs after his departure was named as Daniel Hottmann of Grunbach, a brother of his wife's. (Daniel later emigrated as well.) Copies of all of the documentation along with translations are on file.
22 Nov 95 search of Ed. P. William Filby with Mary K. Meyer, _Passenger and Immigration Lists Index (PILI), First Edition, Vol. 2 H-N, and annual supplements 1982-1985. PILI shows Lemberger immigrations as early as 1776, when an Andreas Lemberger arrived in Canada (First Ed., Vol 2, p. 1203; source Smith, C.N., _Brunswick Deserter - Immigrants of the American Revolution). Other Lembergers, apparently not related to ours, appear in other locations in the First Ed., and in annual supplements for 1982, 1985, 1987, 1989, and 1990. The only ones of direct interest are found in the 1987 supplement, which cite the original sources as: Baltimore Port, Passenger Arrivals at the Port of Baltimore, 1820-1834; from Customs Passenger Lists, Ed. Michael H. Tepper, Transcribed by Elizabeth P. Bentley, Baltimore, Genealogical Publishing Co., 1982. All these are found on p. 383 of Tepper & Bentley. These Lembergers arrived 30 September 1832 on the ship Clothier from Germany, with intent to inhabit the USA:
Lemberger, C.H., age 6, male [Christian Heinrich, b. 1826]
Lemberger, Carl M., age 13, male [Karl Michael, b. 1818]
Lemberger, E.A., age 49, female [Should be E.M., but age is correct for Elisabetha Magdalena Hottmann]
Lemberger, Elizabeth, age 19, female [Elisabetha Catharina, b. 1813]
Lemberger, G., age 53, farmer, male [Johann Gottlieb, b. 1779]
J. Jac., age 9, male [Johann Jacob, b. 1823]
Johannes, age 11, male [Johannes, b. 1821]
We know from family correspondence that the two eldest children, Johann Gottlieb Jr. and Tobias Wilhelm emigrated earlier, ca. 1830 and 1828. This accounts for all surviving family members.]
This information is, however, at variance with the account in a letter from Ellamarie Coles to H.H. West 22 Sep 1933, referring to John (Johannes) Lemberger: "He came to the United States in 1832. Landed in Baltimore and went from there to Philadelphia. He sailed in the "August," a three masted West India trading vessel from Amsterdam. He came from Wutemberg to Highbrunn on a flat boat, taking the route to Necker down the Rhine to Manheim and the Holland Canal to Amsterdam. He sailed on May 5th and landed Aug. 7, 1832, taking 72 days."
A search of NARA microfilm publication M327, roll 87 (Index [Soundex] to Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at Baltimore MD [Federal Passenger Lists] 1820-1897) failed to reveal their immigration. Quite a few Lembergers were listed, but they were all from Bavaria.
Letter from Johannes to H.H. West, 13 May 1900: "Father and balance of family landed in Baltimore on the 7th day of August, 1832. William came to this country in 1828 or 9. Your grandfather Gottlieb followed about 1830." Note discrepancy between 7 Aug and the 30 Sep date derived from PILI.
Letter from Ellamarie Coles to H.H. West, 22 Sep 1933: "After coming to America he laid out the town of Hermann, Missouri, county seat of Gasconade County. He died in 1851, near Caskine, Dark Co., Ohio. His mother (note: she is referring to mother of J. Gottlieb, not of this J.G.) died in 1855 of paralysis, in Washington County, Iowa. The mother lived with a brother Daniel Hottman after coming to America." This last is unclear and evidently incorrect, as her brother Daniel never left Grunbach.
J.G. Lemberger letter to William Lemberger, 19 Jun 1838, written from "Hermann, Missouri." Talks about pros and cons of buying a lot and building a house in Hermann before finishing the survey and returning home (to Darke Co?). "Lately a few families came from New Orleans, among whom was one Carpenter (?) whose wife came from Grunbach. I did not know her at first but later I talked to her and she said she was the daughter of Veigel." (translated from German)
According to Deed Book O-1, pp. 174-175, County Recorder's Office, Darke Co, OH, John G. Lemberger and wife Elizabeth Lemberger sold their farm to William Lemberger for $1000 on 20 February 1845. The farm was described as the west half of the southeast quarter of section 25 of township 10 of range 2 east, consisting of 80 acres. Copy of record furnished by Frank Myers, July 2003.
Publications of the Bureau of the Census, Population Schedule, Census of the US 1850; OH, Darke Co, Butler Twp, p. 436, 4 Dec 1850 (NARA mic pub M432 roll 674)
John Lemberger, age 72, male, farmer, b. Germany
Magdalena Lemberger, age 68, b. Germany
(next dwelling is family of Jacob Miller and his wife, Catharine Lemberger)
This entry confirms that John farmed in Butler Twp.
Marriage Notes for Elisabetha Hottmann and Johann Lemberger:
Marriage: Grunbach Evangelical church books (Catalogus Conjugatorum 1728-1805):
Married 24 Sep 1805, Johann Gottlieb Lemberger, single, Weingärtner, and Elisabetha Magdalena Hottmann. Parents: "H. Johannes Lemberger, Gerichtsverwandter u. Zoller von hier; H. Joh. Antonius Hottmann, Gerichtsverwandter von hier."
Children of Elisabetha Hottmann and Johann Lemberger are:
+ 30 i. Tobias Wilhelm6 Lemberger, born 24 Sep 1806 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany; died 16 Oct 1873 in Cambridge City, Wayne Co, IN.
+ 31 ii. Johann Gottlieb Lemberger, born 18 Oct 1809 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany; died 23 Oct 1872 in Burlington, Des Moines Co, IA.
+ 32 iii. Elisabetha Catharina Lemberger, born 19 Jun 1813 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany; died Unknown.
33 iv. Helena Christiana Lemberger82, born 10 Nov 1815 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany82; died 18 Nov 1815 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany82,83.
Notes for Helena Christiana Lemberger:
Birth & Baptismal (& death) record, 18 Nov 1815
Helena Christiana, d. 18 Nov 1815
Parents: Johann Gottlieb Lemberger, B. u. Weingtr, also Feldmesser, evangel. Religion, & Elisabetha Magdalena geb. Hottmannin, evangel. Religion
POB: Grunbach
DOB: 10 Nov 3:00 a.m.
DPOBp: Grunbach, 10 Nov
Witnesses: Johann Michael Lemberger, single; Anna Catharina, ___Melchior Tobler's, B. u. Weingt., surviving daughter
Fam Reg p. 445
(Taufregister 1808 - 1846)
Death, 1815 (From Todten Register für die Pfarrey Grunbach 1808-1875):
Zahl der Gestorbenen: (not noted)
Namen der Gestorbenen: Helena Christiana
Stand, Charakter, bisheriger Aufenthalts-Ort, Religion: Grunbach
Eltern: Johann Gottlieb Lemberger, B. u. Weingt. auch Feldmesser, Elisabetha Magdalena, geb. Hottmannin
Ehegatten:
Alter: 8 Tag
Krankheit oder zufällige Todesart: Gichter
Ort und Zeit des Todes: Grunbach (Saturday symbol) 18 Nov. Nachts 6 Uhr
Ort und Zeit der Beerdigung: Grunbach, 20 Nov. Vormittags 10 Uhr (Bible ref.)
Seitenzahl des Familienregisters: 445 - Vol. I
[Translation:] Number of deaths: (not noted)
Name of the deceased: Helena Christiana
Status, character, residence to now, religion: Grunbach
Parents: Johann Gottlieb Lemberger, citizen and vine dresser, also surveyor, Elisabetha Magdalena, nee Hottmann
Spouses:
Age: 8 days
Illness or other cause of death: convulsions
Place and date of death: Grunbach, Saturday 18 November 6 p.m.
Place and date of burial: Grunbach 20 November 10 a.m. (Bible ref.)
Page in the Family Register: 445 - Vol. I
34 v. Christian Friderich Lemberger84, born 28 Sep 1816 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany84; died 17 Aug 1817 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany84,85.
Notes for Christian Friderich Lemberger:
Birth & Baptismal (and death) record, 28 Sep 1816
Christian Friderich, d. 17 Aug 1817
Johann Gottlieb Lemberger, B. u. Weingtr. also Feldmesser, evangel. Religion, & Elisabetha Magdalena, nee Hottmann, evangel. Religion
POB: Grunbach
DOB: 28 Sep 6:00 p.m.
DPOBp: Grunbach, 30 Sep
Witnesses: Johann Michael Lemberger, B. u. Weingt., single; Anna Catharina Tobler, single.
Fam Reg p. 445
(Taufregister 1808 - 1846)
Death, 1817 (From Todten Register für die Pfarrey Grunbach 1808-1875):
Zahl der Gestorbenen: (not noted)
Namen der Gestorbenen: Christian Friedrich, geb. 28 Sept. 1816
Stand, Charakter, bisheriger Aufenthalts-Ort, Religion: Grunbach
Eltern: Johann Gottlieb Lemberger, B. u. Weingtr., Elisabetha Magdalena, geb. Hottmannin
Ehegatten:
Alter: 10 Mon. 10 Tag
Krankheit oder zufällige Todesart: Leb__ch? und Gichter
Ort und Zeit des Todes: Grunbach, (Sunday symbol) 17 Aug. Abends 7 Uhr
Ort und Zeit der Beerdigung: Grunbach, 19 Aug, Vormittags 10 Uhr (Bible ref.)
Seitenzahl des Familienregisters: 445 - I. B.
[Translation:] Number of deaths: (not noted)
Name of the deceased: Christian Friedrich, born 28 Sept. 1816
Status, character, residence to now, religion: Grunbach
Parents: Johann Gottlieb Lemberger, citizen and vine dresser, Elisabetha Magdalena nee Hottmann
Spouses:
Age: 10 months 10 days
Illness or other cause of death: (illegible) and convulsions
Place and date of death: Grunbach, Sunday 17 August 7 p.m.
Place and date of burial: Grunbach, 19 August 10 a.m. (Bible ref.)
Page in the Family Register: 445 - Vol. I
35 vi. Karl Michael Lemberger86, born 10 Sep 1818 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany86; died 28 Jun 1874 in probably Mobile, AL87.
Notes for Karl Michael Lemberger:
Birth & Baptismal record, 10 Sep 1819
Karl Michael
Parents: Johann Gottlieb Lemberger, B. u. Weingtr., also Feldmesser, & Elisabetha Magdalena, nee Hottmann
POB: Grunbach
DOB: 10 Sep 8:00 p.m.
DPOBp: Grunbach, 22 Sep
Witnesses: Johann Michael Lemberger, B. u. Weingtr., single; Anna Catharina Tobler, single
Fam Reg p. 445
(Taufregister 1808 - 1846)
Letter from J.G. Lemberger to William Lemberger, 3 Jan 1841: "Karl left Miamisburg, he said, he would go to Louisville, Kentucky, where John and Gottlieb are. If he can get work there he will stay there, if not, he will go to Orleans."
Letter from J.G. Lemberger to William Lemberger, 25 Oct 1843 mentions that he had no news of Karl, which made him uneasy.
1859 Mobile AL City Directory:
Lemberger C, butcher, 11 southern market
1866 Mobile City Directory (Farrow & Dennett, 1866):
Lemberger, C, butcher, 12 so market (per Judy Zervas)
Population Schedules, Census of the United States, 1860; Publications of the Bureau of the Census, National Archives Building, Washington, DC; Alabama, Mobile Co, Free Inhabitants in the Southern Division, Mobile Post Office, Enumeration of J.J. Delchamps, 24 Sep 1860, frame 128, line 15 (National Archives Microfilm Publication M653, roll 17):
Charles Limburgher (sic) age 39, male, butcher, value of real estate $1000, value of personal estate $150, born Wurtemberg (sic), not indicated if: married within the year, attended school within the year, a person over 20 who cannot read or write, whether deaf, dumb, blind, insane, idiotic, pauper or convict.
[Note: no other persons enumerated in this household.]
Records of Confederate Soldiers Who Served During the Civil War (Record Group 109), Alabama, Co. D, Alabama State Artillery, compiled record number 390 (National Archives Microfilm Publication M311):
Charles Lemberger served as a private in Company D, Alabama State Artillery. Available records (muster rolls) show service between 15 May and 31 October 1864. They further show that he was mustered in at Mobile, Alabama, having enlisted on 15 May and 11 August, and that he had never been paid during that period. Record further describe him as age 46, blue eyes, dark hair, light complexion, 5 feet 4 inches in height. The muster roll for 21 August to 31 October lists him as sick.
Checked with negative results:
Marriages of Mobile Co Alabama 1813-1855
Marriages of Mobile Co Alabama 1856-1875
1870 Mortality Schedules, Mobile & Baldwin Bay and Bayou Burials, vol 2 (vol 1 not available, call no F332. M6 MZ.
According to H.H. West, no one in the family heard from Karl/Charles after the end of the Civil War.
[From Judy Zervas, December 2004] "My researcher in Mobile seems to have found a trace of Karl in 1870, pushing his possible date of death forward:
1870 Mobile, Beat 2
Charles LUNBERGER 50 Germany butcher
(living alone)
We had had him in 1860 there also as a butcher."
+ 36 vii. Johannes Lemberger, born 17 Feb 1821 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany; died 25 Apr 1917 in Crafton, San Bernardino Co, California.
37 viii. Johann Jacob Lemberger88, born 01 Aug 1823 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany88,89; died 1902 in Fort Jefferson, Neave Twp, Darke Co, OH90,91.
Notes for Johann Jacob Lemberger:
Birth & Baptismal record, 1 Aug 1823
Johann Jacob
Parents: Johann Gottlieb Lemberger, B. u. Weingtr. also Feldmesser, & Elisabetha Magdalena nee Hottmann
POB: Grunbach
DOB: 1 Aug, 1:00 a.m.
DOBp: Grunbach, 1 Aug
Witnesses: Johann Michael Lemberger, B. u. Weingtr., single; Anna Catharina Tobler, single
Fam Reg p. 445
(Taufregister 1808 - 1846)
Letter from J.G. Lemberger to William Lemberger 3 Jan 1841: "Jacob visited us 3 days ago. He is well and holds much promise if he continues like this. He is making good progress in his profession."
Letter from J.G. Lemberger to William Lemberger, 25 Oct 1843: "Our Jacob is willing if he is free next New Year's to come to Dark Co. also."
Johannes (John) Lemberger letter to H.H. West, 13 May 1900: "John Jacob is a shoe maker. Stayed home until father died, then went to Fort Jefferson, Dark County, Ohio, working at his trade, and was living there yet two years ago."
Population Schedules, Census of the United States, 1900; Publications of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29, National Archives Building, Washington, DC; National Archives microfilm publication T623, Roll 1262. OH, Darke Co, Gordon Village, ED 66, page 17, line 76, dwelling 286, enumerated 27 Jun 1900:
Lemberger, Jacob, head, white, male. Born Aug 1823, age 76, single. Born in Germany. Father and mother born in Germany. Occupation shoemaker. Can read/write/speak English. Rents a house.
The 1900 census records confirms the statement of Johannes (John) Lemberger that Jacob worked as a shoemaker. The census also establishes that he never married: the entry "single" excludes the other options of married, widowed or divorced.
According to Anita Short and Mrs. Dale Bowers, Cemetery Inscriptions of Darke County, Ohio, Vol. III, p. 93, listing for Oak Grove or Fort Jefferson cemetery includes: "Lemberger, Jacob, 1823-1902." According to the description of the location, this cemetery is in the southwest quarter of Sec. 27, Neave Township, 1/4 mile south of the village of Fort Jefferson, and a slight distance east of Route 121. It is fenced in, attractively cared for. Inscriptions taken in 1964.
+ 38 ix. Christian Heinrich Lemberger, born 03 May 1826 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany; died Abt. 01 Jul 1878 in Louisville, Jefferson Co, KY.
8. Christina5 Hottmann (Johann Antonius4, Johann (Hanß) Jacob3, Johannes (Hans)2, Jacob1)92 was born 06 Jul 1785 in Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany92, and died Aft. 25 Oct 1843 in possibly Philadelphia, PA.
Notes for Christina Hottmann:
Birth & baptism: b. 6 Jul 1785, bp. 9 Jul, Parents: Johann Anton Hottmann, Rathbeisitzer [Council member] & W., & Helena, nee Zeyhr. Child: Christina. Witnesses: Johann Georg Ilg, Sr., B & W, and his wife Margretha, nee Seybold.
Christina Hottmann emigrated to the US about 1834. Source of emigration files:
Schorndorf Oberamt (Württtemberg), Auswanderungsakten (Emigration files) F-199
FHL microfilm 0801460 (copies and translation on file). It contains (translated):
1. Letter from the mayor (Schultheiß) of Grunbach to the Oberamt Schorndorf, 28 Jan 1834, concerning the emigration of Christina Hottmann.
To the
Royal District Office
Schorndorf
The single woman Christina Hottmann from here wants to emigrate to North America with her illegitimate son, Johann David, and get under way via Bremen; thus she requests for herself and her son the issue of the appropriate passport.
Thus I dutifully set forth that we have no knowledge of any barrier in the way of issuing the passport. I enclose also items for file: her emigration and her renunciation of citizenship.
With my thanks,
Grunbach, 28 Jan 1834
Mayor,
Maier
2. Grunbach municipal council minute of 25 Jan 1834 concerning the emigration of Christina Hottmann.
KINGDOM OF WÜRTTEMBERG
Municipal Council Minute
of 25 Jan 1834
Sheet 82
District Office Schorndorf
Municipality Grunbach
On petition of Christina Hottmann of Grunbach, who has declared her intention to emigrate to North America, it is certified by the undersigned municipal council
1) that the subject Christina Hottmann, the legitimate daughter of the late Anton Hottmann, officer of the court, and his wife, Helena, nee Zeyher, and according to the baptismal certificate presented, was born on 6 Feb 1785 in Grunbach;
2) that the same considers herself to be of the Evangelical religion;
3) that she is not at this time married, but the mother of 3 children, of whom one boy, aged 15 years, intends to follow the mother to North America;
4) that she is a citizen of Württemberg and a resident of Grunbach;
5) that the same according to her report to our knowledge suffers from none of the deficiencies listed in the law of 15 April 1828, Art. 19;
6) that, with respect to her assets, the same, according to credible evidence
in property 0
in capital and other debts .. 0
in cash 300 guilders
in other goods (with the exclusion of clothing
and underwear) 100 guilders
thus in total 400 guilders
in words four hundred guilders ---
she possesses, of which nothing is held in usufruct, and against which to our knowledge there are no debts owed;
7) that to our knowledge there is no obstacle in the way of her departure from this country and community.
Given at Grunbach the 25th of Jan 1834
The Municipal Council
Maier
Hottmann
Knauer
Zoller
D. Fischer
Hägele
Arnold
Schacht
Seybold
Simon
B. Fischer
Seen on the
By the District Office
3. Statement of Christina Hottmann regarding her intention to emigrate and renunciation of citizenship, 25 Jan 1834.
Municipality of Grunbach
The undersigned Christina Hottmann, single, who [intends] to emigrate to North America, and whose own intention is to ________ _________, acknowledges by the present certificatation, that she by these presents seeks to renounce fully and purposefully the municipal citizenship in Grunbach, of the Kingdom of Württemberg, for herself and her illegitimate son who will leave with her, Johann David, born 8? May 1819.
She further obliges herself, before departing, within a year's time, with regard to all, after her departure, within that period, that such claims on her that may arise, to give to the superior authorities of the kingdom the right [to adjudicate], and for the fulfillment of this obligation she designates as [responsible] citizen Daniel Hottmann, Jr., vine dresser of Grunbach.
Done on the 25th of January 1834
Christina Hottmann
For the assumption and fulfillment of the civic responsibility previously elaborated, he makes himself herewith responsible, by his signature in his own hand, under renunciation of all objections.
signed: Daniel Hottmann
Attested to the genuineness of this certificate and the fitness of the citizens.
Grunbach, 28 January 1834
The Municipal Council
Maier
Hottmann
Knauer
Zoller
D. Fischer
Hägele
Arnold
Schacht?
Seybold
A letter dated 25 Oct 1843 from Johann Gottlieb Lemberger to his son, Tobias Wilhelm (William) Lemberger, asked William to convey greetings to Christina Hottmann. William was living in Philadelphia, PA at the time, so it is likely that Christina was there as well.
Child of Christina Hottmann is:
39 i. Johann David6 Hottmann93, born 01 May 1819 in probably Grunbach, Württemberg, Germany93; died Unknown.
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